Objective Jerk
Army Veteran Asshole that is learning to love Jesus. I use my MIC / Platform as a form of "Therapy", no schedule, no script, just whatever is floating my boat at the moment.
Objective Jerk
WHEN SPLIT SECONDS DETERMINE LIFE AND DEATH: A Police Shooting Analysis
The Jerk; an ex-Military Police officer examines a recent Florida police shooting to explain how poor physical fitness and inadequate training lead to the Justified but unnecessary use of deadly force.
- Jerk discusses taking breaks from social media and news to protect mental health
- Shares a funny comment recently posted on his podcast.
- Breaking down the controversial police shooting footage from Florida
- Why the suspect threw guns over a fence during the altercation
- How officer exhaustion and poor physical conditioning escalated the situation
- The importance of maintaining verbal commands during physical confrontations
- Why split-second decision making depends on proper training
- Physical fitness as a critical component of effective policing
- The difference between criminal liability and poor performance
- How fear and insecurity can lead officers to overcompensate with aggression
Have you seen this footage? Share your thoughts on whether the officer's actions were justified or excessive.
Again, thanks for hanging out with me!
Please feel free to comment or send an email to theobjectivejerk@gmail.com
What's up everybody? This is the Objective, jerk. And I am said, jerk, how's everybody doing? Hope everybody's doing. Well, I hope all this war and everything going on isn't, you know, stressing anybody out. Just keep in mind that this kind of stuff goes on continuously throughout history, maybe not so much where we're the primary as far as America or whatever, but you know it's always been going on. I'm not saying, you know, don't pay attention, but just don't let it stress you out. So I guess we, officially America, just took out a nuclear plant in Iran. I didn't read the details, so maybe I'm wrong, but I, you know, I think that's what Trump posted, not, I don't know, not super excited about it, but at the same time it's not, I mean, you know, iran is Iran. They've always been a problem and would continue to be a problem, and it's not so much that it's more or less how China and Russia react to it. I don't know. It was kind of nice to say that when Trump's in office there's no wars and stuff, but it's not like he started this. I don't know who knows.
Speaker 1:I've been trying to lay off everything just because I just I get tired of it. I'm so tired of all the racial ice and the stuff going on, the protesting and everything. It's just like I'm just sick of it. So I've just been really kind of trying to avoid all that stuff. Just been trying to, uh, read some books, read the bible, pray the rosary, go to the gym, things like that, just try and keep myself busy with other stuff. That's not social media, because, man, there's so much crap too on, like I I haven't. I've twitter is much better than it used to be, but it still sucks, or x, whatever you want to call it. But um, it's just there's so much bs and even like some of the stuff that I do watch, it seems like they're just little click baity stuff. You, you know, because everything is just about clicks and views, no matter what you know.
Speaker 1:Maybe people start off just trying to do you know what report on what's going on, but then they kind of ooh, breaking. And then you're watching. You're like what? This isn't, why is this the same breaking what? So it's like I don't know, I've kind of slowed down a little bit on. This isn't. Why is this the same breaking? So it's like I don't know. I've kind of slowed down a little bit on just because I'm yeah, it just gets old after a while. You know, I mean I've said it before, you gotta take a break every once in a while.
Speaker 1:But I did feel like talking. There was a police officer-involved shooting that happened in Florida beginning of the month. I guess that I didn't hear about until just today and I watched the clip. I'm going to watch it again for the viewers so you can watch it. I'm not going to react because I already watched it.
Speaker 1:Basically, I mean, I just kind of had it going on while I was doing some stuff. It's a short video but I did want to kind of talk about some stuff regarding it. But before I do that, I kind of wanted to share something. I think it's funny. So my channel whatever you want to call it, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So I, you know, I I audit my podcast. First of all, I'm all about just the podcast because I'm not trying to do a bunch of editing and all this kind of stuff. I'm not trying to be a content creator, I'm just, you know, wanting to talk and BS. So you know, I just wanted to do podcasting. And then I started like trying uploading to Rumble and BitChute and everything like that and was getting more views and stuff like this. I was like man, all right.
Speaker 1:So, you know, I started making little lazy videos and stuff like that, but my biggest thing is the podcast. Like, what makes me happy is when I get interaction on the podcast. But so I, you know my podcast, when I record one, it automatically uploads to YouTube. It's just audio. There's no video, because I don't do the video, because it never the stuff I talk about. Youtube doesn't want you know. So I don't even try.
Speaker 1:Every once in a while, if I talk about something, I guess maybe something kind of like this the police shooting, maybe maybe I'll upload it, I don't know. But usually if I talk about like movies or something, that's what I'll upload to YouTube, but not really, I don't know. I just, I, you know, upload my podcast and I upload it to Rumble and BitChute and that's it. That's all I do, you know.
Speaker 1:And I share some links to stuff, but I used to spend a lot of time on Twitter commenting and sharing posts and this and that, but man, it was just ugh, I don't like it Anyway. So I'm a very and that. But man, it was just, I don't like it anyway. So I'm a very, very, very, very, very small, whatever you know. I mean I get bottom of the barrel and that's fine. You know I'm not trying to be anything, but you know I do get some interaction sometimes. Sometimes it's good, a lot of times it's like it's it's bad, or sometimes it's comical.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to share this. I thought this was funny. So on my last episode I talked about it was called fatty liver, fake news and finding focus right, and I'm pretty sure whoever this person is um has commented before because it was very similar to other stuff when I talked about fast food restaurants, the differences between here and there. It's probably the same guy. I haven't looked, I don't know. I thought it was pretty funny, so I'm just going to read his comment, or her. I thought it was pretty funny, so I'm just going to read his comment, or her, I guess.
Speaker 1:Anyway, it says you are just a lazy, whiny bitch. You eat a shit diet Full of dead animal parts and have no idea how you're gaining weight. All those tats Instantly tell me you are a narcissist. All the dead animal stuff Made you lose your hair, all the hormones and meat fuck up the hair follicles. I am way older than you, old enough to be your daddy and then some. I run half marathons every week, run in the middle of the winter, summer. I'm in better shape than you because I do not eat any animal products and make no excuses Definitely a vegetarian, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So some of this stuff, I just think that's funny and I reply thanks for watching. Oh, crap, it's playing the video. Playing the video. Let crap it's playing the video. Playing the video. Let me turn. Okay, go back. No, come on. All right, I don't know if that recorded that. I don't think it did. It started playing in the beginning of the video. Anyway, I just think that's funny.
Speaker 1:It's funny how people are more inclined to comment when they're angry than if they're. You know, if people actually kind of liked the video, I mean I'll get some stuff, hey, liked it, whatever this net, blah, blah, blah. They'll share something, um, but for the most part I don't. You know, I don't get a lot of interaction, which is fine. I just think I, I just think I don't know. I just thought that was funny and I think this guy is actually I think he's commented before because it sounds similar. Let me see, let me see, let me see.
Speaker 1:I'm going to see if I can find the, I don't know. When I talked about like, like kind of I know it was a while ago, though the differences I talked about how it's like the same three like fast food and it's like I don't eat fast food all the time because it is garbage, but meat is not garbage, you retard. Anyway, in defense of keeping part of my problem my health problems is because of science and all the stupid medication they put me on, but I'm off of it. Finally, I don't know crap. I have no idea which one it was. I should have looked it up beforehand. Huh, crap. I have no idea which one it was. I should have looked it up beforehand. Huh, oh, maybe it's this one. Let me see.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's going to play it again, though I've got to make sure it doesn't. Maybe not. No comment, dang it. Maybe I can see all of them. Hold on a second when your brain feels like you're See, and then I get like notifications when there isn't anything there. Anyway, it's kind of Every once in a while I'll get that, and I think it's the same person. I don't know, I'd have to look, not sure, but I just thought it was funny. I actually like those. So, whoever, keep it up, dude, it's entertaining, all right, but yeah.
Speaker 1:So, okay, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to play the video which I kind of already watched, but I didn't really watch it. Watch it, play the video which I kind of already watched, but I didn't really watch it. Watch it, and then I'm going to talk about it. So I'm not going to pause and talk over it, I'm just going to play it. I mean, I'll talk as it's playing, but I'm not going to stop it, but I'm going to pull it up first of all, so I can. Okay, here we go. So I'm going to push play now, all right. So the officer is definitely not well trained in submission and everything like that, which I'm not an expert either, but I don't know. I'm not going to talk too much, I'm going to wait until the video is over.
Speaker 1:So he's fighting with this guy. Well, first of all, it came across that he got a call of somebody behind this business or whatever. He didn't know what it is. He talked to the guy. So here's the guy who reached into the bag. He's trying to get rid of his gun. It appears, after watching the whole video, that he's just trying to get rid of it. But the thing is. So now the officer knows, oh crap, he just a gun got tossed, but it happened when he got flipped. Was he trying to get it to use it? Probably, I don't know. It's hard to say. I don't know if this other one's a little gun or part. Yeah, it's a little revolver, so he had two guns. So the thing is too, is you can only go off of, so you can see he's spent. He smoked man Cop is like done, so the guy. So at this point the cop is fighting for his life, because it is not hard to get knocked in the head unconscious. So now he knows that he's going over to where he threw the guns.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm not pausing it, it's the video, just and there it is Alright. So all right. So I hadn't heard or seen anything about this. And gosh, dang it. Man. Even even when I clear my stuff before gosh every time, I know gosh, I don't know it'll never go as something about the humidity here I think. Anyway, I'm gonna take a little lozenger thingy I'm supposed to do that before to help. Anyway, alright. So this video, I guess, is kind of. People are upset because they're like he was unarmed and maybe shot and, as you saw in the video, he was throwing the guns over the video. He was throwing the guns over the fence, right, but it's so much easier to criticize watching it from 2020, armchair whatever, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1:I think the shooting is justified based on what the officer knew and what was going on at the time. Now, I don't think the officer he needs definitely no criminal charges or anything like that, but he needs some remedial training. He needs to. It's so important to be in shape being a police officer, you know, and it's hard when you work 12 hours and you work nights and the only thing you can eat is like fast food or something. So it is kind of hard, but it can be done. Um, but he? I mean if, if the officer was better trained and better in better shape, then it wouldn't have ended like it did. He would have took control of the suspect immediately, got him down, got him cuffed, and then the guy would still be. I don't actually I don't know if he died or not. Probably, I mean, there was a lot of so, of so and then so, but here's the thing. So this is why I don't think it's like you know, the officer or the sheriff should be charged.
Speaker 1:He shows up to a call guy, is in the area where the call regarding the call jumps over the fence. He's trying to talk to him and immediately starts. He won't listen and then so the cop goes, but hands hey, hold on and then they start scuffling right. So immediately you're in a bad situation. Um, because I mean, as soon as you start fighting by yourself with a suspect as a police officer, your life is in, because you have no idea what that guy's intentions are. Maybe he's just trying to get you off and take off right, but you don't know that. And it's not hard for the individual to get the upper hand of a police officer and then get your gun and take you out. And it's happened. You know. Yes, the weapons have retention systems and everything like that, but it's still. You know they come out so they're fighting. He can't get the upper hand.
Speaker 1:The guy threw the gun. I would think the officer knew the gun, heard it, saw it the way it was. Maybe he didn't know, I don't know, but I think he knew at least the first one, maybe not the second one. And then you know, the guy was beaten on him. He goes over to where he threw the guns and then, you know, he I don't. It looks like the officer didn't really see him toss the gun, so as far as he knew, he had the guns and then he shoots him. My, I need a mute. How do I mute the um? My only thing is, my only thing is you know you're supposed to be giving commands. So through that whole video the officer isn't saying nothing because he's fighting with the guy. Right and real quick.
Speaker 1:I didn't do this before, but so you know, I was MP, military police in the Army, and then I worked for the Army as a civilian, as a police officer, and then did security for different places, and so I've had some training, some experience. The experience I have, I don't think is it's not as bad as working in the city. You know, there's that Jack Reacher movie with Tom Cruise and he's like you know, the only difference between me and you or between I don't know something like that he's like all my suspects are trained killers. Yeah, kind of. But the thing is is like most people in the military are working towards. Yeah, there's some shitty, you know, soldiers and whatever, this and that, but for the most part they don't want to get in trouble and you know they follow orders, for you know, not all the time, but you know we got in lots of scraps and stuff when I was an MP.
Speaker 1:But you know, when you're a civilian you have no idea. You have no idea who the person is. That you're a civilian you have no idea. You have no idea who the person is that you're dealing with and what their intentions are. I mean, it goes both ways. But you know, just because somebody was trained how to kill in basic and then became a pharmacist or something, you know, it's just that quote, like it's like cool, like oh yeah, but I don't know. You know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I never worked city police or sheriffs like that. So I have a lot of respect for the individuals that have or do, and but the training that I was always given was, whenever we did any kind of training physical, trying to, you know, baton strike, or when you're grappling or doing whatever you're supposed to be, giving commands as you do it, so that bystanders, such as that camera, knows what's going on, because they could argue like, well, the guy doesn't know what he's supposed to do, the cop's just beating on him and they're fighting. You know which is kind of a stupid argument, but you know it is an argument. So that's why you're always trained to like get back, get back, get down, get down. And it's tough when you're exerting yourself and you're trying to breathe and to talk at the same time. That's why you notice that guy. The cop wasn't saying nothing because he was out. He's trying to breathe.
Speaker 1:And then the whole radio thing I'm not even talking about the radio. It seemed like people were. I don't know what's going on, but the officer kept trying to call in that he needed assistance. I don't know. He did 2112 or something is what he said. But it's like he kept trying, but it was like boop boop, boop, boop. That means he was keying the mic while somebody was already on the net. And that's why it's important to not just be jaw-jacking on the net all the time. It's supposed to be just codes. You've got to give a bunch of information. You're supposed to call on the phone and stuff like that For reasons like this. You know, because you heard it's like trying to be like hey, I need help. Anyway, that's another thing. But yeah, so the officer was just really poorly trained and out of shape completely. You know I'm not one to talk, but definitely out of shape. Generally.
Speaker 1:You want somebody that would be able to, one on one, be able to take the individual down and, you know, get him cuffed while telling him what he's got to do and what he's got to do. So it's like you know he should have stopped resisting, stopped resisting whatever this and that. And then the only thing is like, when he got up and he went over there and the cop pulled the gun, like he wasn't like drop it, drop it, drop it or I'll shoot he just like pulled it and just shot at him. You know what I mean. So I guess, if you get super technical, I don't know, the more I think about it. Yeah, i't. I'm not saying the cop was wrong, but he wasn't. He kind of he didn't do a very good job. I don't think he should be. He either needs some training or he needs to be sitting on a desk or something, because that was not the best, you know. I mean, he came out on top, he went home, which is good, but yeah, there were some things that could have went a little better. You know, he should have been given commands but he couldn't, because I'm assuming he was trying to breathe, couldn't talk, you know. So he needs to be in better shape, you know.
Speaker 1:And then people would be like, well, he didn't even have a gun and he shot him. It's like, well, yeah, but he didn't see, if you watch the video, he tossed the guns over and then the cop was getting up, and then he got up and then pulled the gun, but he didn't say nothing like hey, put your hands up, put your hands up. Or he just, you know, probably because he was just like so out of it and he thought the guy had a gun, he was unfair for his life, you know, the cop was like he thought I'm gonna die, I need to shoot this guy before he shoots me now. Was that actually what happened? No, the guy threw the guns over the fence, right but right. But you have to go by what the officer knows at the time. You know. You can't look at the video and be like, oh, my gosh, it's like he only knows so much information at that point in time. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:After it was all said and done, and then maybe he realized that the weapon was over the fence and he would have been like oh crap man. But what's done is done and you know you can't if you hesitate, if you're like oh man, if you're like oh man, did he throw it? I don't see the gun, I'm not sure. I mean you're supposed to have visual, you're supposed to be able to see the gun and lift. So I mean there are some it's kind of iffy. Really mean, the shooting, I think, is justified but, like I said, the officer was sloppy and I don't think he needs to be criminally charged. But he definitely needs training or he needs to not be a police officer anymore.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, because we do a lot of training, like I said, given the commands or did a lot of shooting where it was like they tried to get you, it's like you had to wait for that moment. Just because somebody's holding a weapon doesn't mean, you know, like, if they have a gun but they're pointing it at the ground, can they hurt you? They have the ability to, but they can't hurt you at that moment. It's not until they start to raise the weapon and show you. Know what's the word Totally forgot Intent, right? So you know, if somebody has a bat and they're just hanging it down by the side, can you shoot them? If they got a bat and they're coming at you to swing it, can you shoot them? Those are all things that.
Speaker 1:So I mean the officer. I wouldn't say he fucked up, but he just definitely didn't do a good job and, given the circumstances and everything, everything he knew at the time, I think he's fine as far as criminal charges I've said this how many times. But he definitely, you know, he should not be a police officer or he needs to get in shape and remediate. That's why it's so important to be in good shape as a police officer, man, because for those that know, no, no, but those that don't, it's to exert yourself and to um, you know, uh, I'm gonna say tumble, but that's not the right you know to to, to fight somebody there's another word I'm trying to think of but, dude, 30 seconds of full-on grappling and this, and that tires you out and if you're not in shape for it tires you out even quicker. Plus, police officers have all their stuff on um. So you got to be in shape, man, you really do.
Speaker 1:If that police officer was in good shape and maybe he was pretty good trained, maybe he could do it. He just he was just so out of shape. But if he was in good shape and some decent training he would have, took that guy out immediately, got him. Then, you know, this would never happen. So that's why it's really important for police officers to be in shape. That's why you know, when you see police officers and they're just like huge and you're just like what, they need to be a little more strict with that kind of stuff because of reasons like this. This is a prime example of why police officers need to be in good shape and well-trained, because you get a lot of police officers that are not well trained, they're not confident in their abilities and so they overcompensate and they, you know, pull out the gun right away and they're trying to show dominance or being like I'll tell you what to do, and they start being angry and this and that, because they're trying to scare the other person. Because they're scared, you know. So it's a tough job, man.
Speaker 1:And then when you have, you know, your community hating on you, which it seems to be less and less, though it's not like it was four years ago during the Biden administration and everything and all the defund the police. It was like geez. You know I had a buddy that or I have a buddy it was an army with. He retired around that time it was a couple of years ago now and he was looking to be a police officer. And I was like man, I don't know, dude, he ended up not, he's doing something, or did he go back? I don't know, dude, uh, he ended up not, he's doing something, or did he go back? I don't know. I haven't talked to him in a while.
Speaker 1:Then I have another buddy who is a police officer and guess what? He's in shape. He's always been, you know, into keeping in shape and stuff like this. So it's, it's important. So I don't know, um, that's just kind of my perspective on it. Like I said, I don't think the cop should be criminally liable, but he needs to either not be a police officer anymore or he needs some training and remedial, getting in shape and all that kind of stuff. But I'm glad that he made it out alive and I hope, you know, he does either find a better job that suits him or he gets in better shape and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, all right, so that's it. I kind of feel like I'm repeating myself. So let me know what you think. Did the guy was it excessive? Did the cop you know? Let me know your opinions. Think Um, did the guy was it excessive? Did the cop you know? Let me know your opinions about it. And thanks for listening, thanks for hanging out, god bless, and I'll see you guys next time. All right, bye.
